Attempt at a unisex full-body mesh not conforming with sim


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Attempt at a unisex full-body mesh not conforming with sim Aug 30, 2020 16:02:46 GMT -5

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Post by dolcifool on Aug 30, 2020 16:02:46 GMT -5

Hi, I feel I may have gotten a little over ambitious for my fourth mesh, and I'm hoping someone could tell me what I've overlooked in my mesh editing.
I've been trying to make this work on my own for about a week now, however no dice. I've hit a wall, thus I'm gonna rubber ducky my way through this with help hopefully:

What I'm trying to make is a Nanny suit that can be preferably worn by both genders. Once I figure the top out I'm going to vary the bottom half with a knee-high skirt and then with pants.

To start I used a yfb_SwimsuitOnePiece as the .package file because it was a fullbody outfit that had one 'studio_mesh_1' and I figured it would be easier to only worry about the one geom cut at 0000 if I merged them all together after fiddling with the meshes.

So I've appended the yfb_SuitRuffle deleted parts of the mesh I didn't need/want, fixed the lapels, made sure it was still at a cut of 0000; and then I removed the original swimsuit mesh. Next I appended the yfbottom_SkirtStraight, edited as needed then merged it to the main suit. (~~There's a couple gaps around the edges at the top, but unless you're trying to look up the skirt no one'll know.~~) So as far I can tell so good.

Next I appended the shirt piece of ymb_TuxedoTraditional to a nude female top that I then shrink-wrapped it to for shape. Then appended the shrink-wrapped version (it's from a male mesh, and is sorta free floating within the main mesh? so I'm thinking that may be an issue?) into the main _SuitRuffle mesh and adjusted it 'til it looked right. Then the bow comes from yftop_BowButton. All together it looks fairly good in Blender and S4S; but when I bring it to CAS it won't move correctly with the sim.

Okay, I figure it's obviously a weight paint/uv_1 issue-- So I followed brujah's tutorial for weight transfers using yfb_WesternDress as a reference, as it is the closest in shape to my mesh now. The vertex paint is set at hex: 00FF00, pressed shift K to 'Set Vertex Colours'. Then I followed eliavah's tutorial for the uv_1 transfer.
Eeehhh it's closer, but not quite there.

Here's the main tutorials/threads I've looked at for help to get as far as I did:

sims4studio.com/thread/81/weight-transfer-blender
sims4studio.com/thread/5055/elia-quick-sims-help-tutorial
sims4studio.com/thread/11795/another-weight-problem-thread

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Female Sims:

Male Sims with 'Age & Gender Flags' set as: ☑ Female ☐ Male

Male Sims after 'Age & Gender Flags' set as: ☑ Female ☑ Male

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The clavicle area is haunting me; it won't move at all. The bow-tie is obviously following along with the suit, but the shirt isn't except for the breast area.
On the male sims I managed to fix their geometry-boner/groin area by flagging it as both female and male in the 'Age & Gender' box, but by doing that the male sims necks are now scaled down and they look like big bobble heads with an obvious clip at the neck area. Plus the feminine waist has transferred over as well ignoring the sim's original body proportions.

Please help me many Obi-Wan Kenobi's of the forum, lol, I'm not sure what my next step is if any.

But I'd appreciate any help.

Last Edit: Aug 30, 2020 16:10:20 GMT -5 by dolcifool

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Attempt at a unisex full-body mesh not conforming with sim Aug 30, 2020 16:49:06 GMT -5

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Post by mauvemorn on Aug 30, 2020 16:49:06 GMT -5

Hi.
If you were to examine any maxis jacket, you would see that each garment is connected with each other, there is no overlapping geometry. If there is no overlapping geometry, there's nothing to clip into each other.

If you were to check how any maxis item that does not come with a separate mesh morphs when you set, say, masculine frame with feminine fashion preference, you'd see that it morph badly as it is. One thing you could do is minimize the affect of chest bones.

If you will choose uvs, you will see that the chest area is messed up.

The skirt should be vertex painted with 3fff00, this will remove the bulge thing

It is best to keep uvs uniformly scaled in relation to the 3d model and to each other. For example the skirt is squished while there is plenty of free space to put them in. You can move them and re-do the texture. Follow this tutorial for this
You have uvs in the space meant for shoes

Your garment is affected by skirt bones while the item you cloned is not. Introducing new bones causes distortions that may not appear in your game but might appear in other people's.

Do the following:
- Ideally you'd want to cut out those overlapping parts and join those areas properly;
- separate the top but without arms and neck (nude);
- clone DressPanels, export the blend, append, re-transfer a uv_1 map from it with these settings;

- if you removed overlapping parts, re-transfer weights with these settings

- in Weights paint choose b__CAS_L_Breast__, choose Levels, set gain to 0,5 or less. Do the same with b__CAS_R_Breast__. Before you do that, make sure the garment has Armature modifier assigned and rig selected;
- join the top with the bottom, vertex paint the lower body ( without legs) with 3fff00;

Jul 4, 2019 10:01:44 GMT -5 mauvemorn said:

Vertex paint dictates what variation (skin-tight and robe-like) of deformation maps the painted area will deform according to in CAS during body customization and animation.
00FF00 is for skint-tight areas, 3FFF00 is for any skirt-like area ( skirts, bottom parts of dresses, coats, aprons, etc).
Start by choosing 00FF00 and Paint - Set vertex color
1). Disable Limit selection to visible;
2). Holding Ctrl, lasso-select the bottom part of the mesh starting somewhere in the middle of the pelvic bone;
3). Enable sync;
4). Press B and deselect legs;
5). Switch to Vertex paint and enable Face selection masking for painting;
6). Type in 3FFF00;
7). Paint - Set vertex colors;
8). Press A twice to deselect and select everything again, Paint - Smooth vertex colors

- edit the uvs in uv_0, re-bake the texture;
- import the mesh in the package started from DressPanels

Last Edit: Aug 30, 2020 16:54:56 GMT -5 by mauvemorn

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Attempt at a unisex full-body mesh not conforming with sim Aug 30, 2020 17:56:40 GMT -5

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Post by dolcifool on Aug 30, 2020 17:56:40 GMT -5

mauvemorn Thank you! I will give that a try

Edit: I'm watching the video and I just *facepalm* I have the uv map template downloaded and I ignored it. Or rather I didn't understand that even thought there is empty space it's not, technically speaking, 'empty space'. Now my friend is laughing at me, as I lament the fact that I have been making things harder for myself. This tutorial clicked a few things into place for me-- like I had no idea that's how baking textures worked in blender! I figured I hadn't gone through the Tutorial Masterpost thoroughly enough ,':T
I also appreciate the guide for fixing the weight paints, I'm excited to try and fix this, thank you!

Last Edit: Aug 30, 2020 21:20:44 GMT -5 by dolcifool


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